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Imp
Mar 2, 2007 16:57:11 GMT -5
Post by captain on Mar 2, 2007 16:57:11 GMT -5
I can own everybody at plains Imp game with England there are so many people who think they are so good they can be korea and beat england can anybody put up a good fight in imp games?
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Imp
Mar 2, 2007 18:36:40 GMT -5
Post by Rotaretilbo on Mar 2, 2007 18:36:40 GMT -5
Nope. I'd get crushed
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Imp
Mar 2, 2007 19:36:31 GMT -5
Post by GoSailing on Mar 2, 2007 19:36:31 GMT -5
I would slaughter you if I could play... even without playing once in the last year. I bet groove could as well.
But out of curiosity, what is your online name (use one at least a year old or I will have no clue who you are).
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Imp
Mar 3, 2007 18:07:17 GMT -5
Post by captain on Mar 3, 2007 18:07:17 GMT -5
My player name in the game is: captain56 i played 2 England v 2 Korea a few days ago and Korea beat me because of the sheer amount of cannonades in the long run Korea are stronger than England but England prevails more with units made up as fast as possible. Today i played As Korea who my ally was Korea too it was 3v2 and we owned them basically by having about 100 cannonades on each team and also converting there whole army with buddishm .
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Imp
Mar 3, 2007 21:28:46 GMT -5
Post by groove on Mar 3, 2007 21:28:46 GMT -5
never heard this name...do you play regularly? Well Korea can win most games at the long run...at beginning until korea starts to bigboom...england can pwone them...just a drummer is needed...and range on inf...easy win most games. and go sailing is right with his assumption....
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Imp
Mar 4, 2007 7:29:40 GMT -5
Post by captain on Mar 4, 2007 7:29:40 GMT -5
There is a limit which skill can take you i mean..
You just build tons of military buildings and food warehouse and mining camps then just keep creating and thats it perhaps a wall anda few towers near the battlefield and a good ally incase the other does a 2v1 on you.
The only thing i havent tried is sending all my subjects as grapeshot into the battlefield so my gunners can have more time to kill more of their stronger units.
And yes i accept the fact you have played this game on mulitplayer longer than me so you could probably beat me.
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Imp
Mar 4, 2007 15:57:16 GMT -5
Post by GoSailing on Mar 4, 2007 15:57:16 GMT -5
There is much more to England than that. You need to mine gold with cits, or you are done. Mining camps mine gold WAY to slowly. For wood gathering you need at least 30-50 cits or you won't be able to make enough military buildings to use your gold. Lots of England players just make maybe 2 stables and 3 or 4 barracks. But you really need at least 5 stables, 6-8 barracks, 2 or so churches and 2 or 3 siege places. Of course you change the proportion depending on what the enemy has but the point is the same. If the map is big, like a 2v2 on a medium map, then you need even more than those buildings.
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Imp
Mar 4, 2007 18:10:13 GMT -5
Post by captain on Mar 4, 2007 18:10:13 GMT -5
perhaps so but my method is what most skilled players i see take.
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Imp
Mar 6, 2007 6:18:58 GMT -5
Post by Angry Sheepdog on Mar 6, 2007 6:18:58 GMT -5
Most skilled players start with cits for mining, and then go to mining camps. But you need to make a rax first and then start pumping out units very quickly. You can't 'see' the method skilled players use because it depends on the map and such. A very important thing that you all forgot was fishing boats. There are many different strategies.
I myself aren't that good at imp, but I can hold up a decent fight if I play as China.
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Imp
Mar 6, 2007 19:06:04 GMT -5
Post by GoSailing on Mar 6, 2007 19:06:04 GMT -5
Yes fishing boats are hugely important, even for England but I simply forgot about them. I just wish I could play a recorded game and show you guys.
Anyways, a good indicator to know that you don't have enough of something is if you have more than around 500 of any resource (unless you are saving for a reasearch or tech upgrade or something of the sort). If you have to much wood as England then you should build a mining camp on an enemy mine, or build food camps. If you have to much gold, build more buildings and build more military. You should NEVER have more than 300 gold in the early game. In late game the gold flow comes so quickly that you can 300 in a couple of seconds, in which case you should be making loads of military.
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Imp
Mar 7, 2007 6:22:29 GMT -5
Post by Angry Sheepdog on Mar 7, 2007 6:22:29 GMT -5
Yes, in the beginning you should always have around 0 resources, and by that I mean you're still collecting tons, but you make sure you use it ASAP. Good players never save up resources, they keep building and building.
Who here thinks that spike pits are too expensive? I mean they are good and all, but it takes time for them to be built and the enemy isn't even guaranteed to go over them. Plus religion can see them. I think if they were 40 gold or something they would be worth it. Cause Chinese units are useless to waste it against and French units cost like 90 resources total but they can walk through forests. The only place they would be good is at choke points, or near your cits, so sword cav can't get to them.
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Imp
Mar 8, 2007 0:18:29 GMT -5
Post by GoSailing on Mar 8, 2007 0:18:29 GMT -5
I rarely used them, but they can be very useful. I actually pretty much never used the competitively, but they are also a fun way to humiliate oponents, if it happens to be a grudge match. They can be useful in competitive games though. As you said, its pretty much useless against Franks and wasteful against China, but if your enemy is Korea and spamming infantry then they can be great. They can also be used in similar ways as Taoist Sorcerers' volcanoes in that you can make an area the enemy won't pass. You can set pits up across a choke point and 1 of 2 things will happen... A: He goes over the pits and looses military. B: He goes to the next choke point, where you can set a trap and kill him. Sounds win-win to me. Of course, gold is also needed for building military. I'd only use the gold if for some reason you have an imbalance of resources. Like if you don't have enough wood to build military buildings or you don't have enough food to build units, but you have extra gold.
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Imp
Mar 10, 2007 12:13:19 GMT -5
Post by Angry Sheepdog on Mar 10, 2007 12:13:19 GMT -5
But its easy for the enemy to adapt, they just make a few religion to see them. They are fun to use against the computer though.
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Imp
Mar 10, 2007 19:07:51 GMT -5
Post by GoSailing on Mar 10, 2007 19:07:51 GMT -5
I know the enemy adapts. They are really just a one time thing. I wouldn't even use them twice against the same player in the same week. It simply wouldn't work. Thats just the nature of booby trapping.
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Imp
Mar 11, 2007 17:41:42 GMT -5
Post by Angry Sheepdog on Mar 11, 2007 17:41:42 GMT -5
Yup. I wouldn't use it even against the same person for a month. And only just for fun. You know what would be a fun hack? A moving spike pit
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