My Scenario (in creation)

[jedihunter]

Ayyy, I'm making a scenario, I haven't quite thought up a name yet- but essentially, its on a map of Europe, think EuF meets North v.s. South.

Its set in the Medieval age, a year or two before the third crusade.

Basically, there are 6 players, and 1-2 CPU players for enemies/neutral parties, The British Empire, France, The Holy Roman Empire, The Byzantine Empire, a kingdom I'm calling the Saracens, just because I don't have very much information there, and either the Kingdom of Hungary, Jerusalem (hah, would suck to be them), Poland or some fictional russian Empire, at that time.

In the scn, all your cits do is build, and farm.

Collecting gold is automatic, it is done by the amount of citizens you have, and the amount of land you control, mining gold just looks funny to me, Stone I suppose would be gathered the same way.

All troops are created in a fashion that I got from North v.s. South, just more advanced, each Civ has the option of 3 classes, The special class, the ranged and melee class, melee has Horsemen and groundtroops (sword and hopefully spear).

The fourth option is to upgrade your troops, for a hefty price you can update say.. Bowmen, to "Archers", and they would have a little bit further range, higher HP and attack- ect.


The Special unit concepts I have now are as follows-

Holy Roman Empire: Teutonic Knights (crusaders): They are pretty fast, they have very very heavy armor, they will defeat just about any melee unit singlehandedly (other than spearmen. which obviously could aim for the horse in reality), but are weak against Archers.

Saracens: Horse Archers, extremely fast troops, little to no armor, so if you get close to them, they're dead, they fire fast, and do a lot of damage to all troops (not buildings, that would be pretty cheap).

Britain: Longbowmen, though wasn't it obvious?: They have extremely nice range, can fire at a moderate rate, and they have nice attack- no armor though, meant to be used En Masse.

The Byzantine Empire: Heavy Cavalry (Cataphract?..however its spelled) Like the Teutonic Knight, but with increased speed, decreased attack and more armor.

I don't know what to give most of the other civs, just yet, though.

[Rotaretilbo]

Looks interesting. Can't wait to try it out.

[jedihunter]

Only problem is I'm not happy with the current size of the map, it goes from Wales to the Holland, and Normandy is about the size of 2 granaries with farms, add some houses, it really isn't quite large enough.

[Rotaretilbo]

What size map are you using? 400x400?

[jedihunter]

I'm honestly not sure, I'm relatively sure its a 250x250, its no larger than 300x300, because I'm using a Elevation file, and it took foooorrevver to load a 300x300, let alone 400x400.

[Nachlader]

British Empire didn't exist in the Medieval ages, Britain didn't even exist until the end of the Renaissance period (1603) and therefore what is now Britain was then just lands belonging to England. Around after the 1300s at least that all of the British isles (except N. Ireland and Ireland itself) was under English control.

Also don't called Holland 'the Holland'. However using that prefix works with the other name for the Dutch country 'the Netherlands'.

[jedihunter]

koe said:

British Empire didn't exist in the Medieval ages, Britain didn't even exist until the end of the Renaissance period (1603) and therefore what is now Britain was then just lands belonging to England. Around after the 1300s at least that all of the British isles (except N. Ireland and Ireland itself) was under English control.

Also don't called Holland 'the Holland'. However using that prefix works with the other name for the Dutch country 'the Netherlands'.

Actually that was a type for Holy land.

But you know what I meant by Britain, it would be an empire if you win the scenario .

[Nachlader]

Yes but it wasn't Britain in the first place, this crusading empire would've just been any old English empire. Britain was formed when the Scottish King James IV (of Scotland) came down as the heir of the childless Queen. When James came to power he united the crowns and became James I of Britain. The prefix 'Great' was added when the English and Scottish governments were combined and when Ireland was added to Britain (still a commonwealth state to this day). Nowadays Great Britain (or just 'Britain' these days) consists of: England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland. Ireland itself is now indenpendent. So the word 'British' didn't even exist in the Middle ages, though it is thought to have derived from the Latin 'Pritani', meaning 'painted people' (mostly of a blue woad), a reference to the people who inhabitated the land at the time of 100 BC.

There, I also did some history in the HG scen forums, no matter how far I went.

[jedihunter]

koe said:

Yes but it wasn't Britain in the first place, this crusading empire would've just been any old English empire. Britain was formed when the Scottish King James IV (of Scotland) came down as the heir of the childless Queen. When James came to power he united the crowns and became James I of Britain. The prefix 'Great' was added when the English and Scottish governments were combined and when Ireland was added to Britain (still a commonwealth state to this day). Nowadays Great Britain (or just 'Britain' these days) consists of: England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland. Ireland itself is now indenpendent. So the word 'British' didn't even exist in the Middle ages, though it is thought to have derived from the Latin 'Pritani', meaning 'painted people' (mostly of a blue woad), a reference to the people who inhabitated the land at the time of 100 BC.

There, I also did some history in the HG scen forums, no matter how far I went.

Good, maybe you can help me think up some special units and the 6th civ then!

[Nachlader]

The Third Crusade went from 1189 to 1192. Unless of course it's three years before that then you can forget my idea of having an French Civ. In the Crusade, both Henry II of England and Phillip II of France resolved their differences and sent an allied army (of English and French troops) to the Levant, so you can forget an Anglo-Frankish army too. It is worth mentioning Wales, as they are to credit for the English use of their longbows. What is exciting about the Third Crusade is that Saladin and his Kurdish armies were ruling the place at the time (not Saracens, btw), also Richard the Lionheart (the son of Henry II and later to be Richard I) was sent to command the English armies so make a decent use of involving the legendary, and at some points chivarlous, characters in your plans.

[Angry Sheepdog]

About the Roman special unit, I think that it should be the Roman "Legion". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_legion They were the main army unit that the Romans had, and almost everyone who went to the army became one. I think the unit to resemble them would be the "long swordsman", because the roman legions had a tactic called "turtle" where they would carry their shields over their heads to deflect arrow fire until they reached the enemy where they would fight with their shields down. Which is basically what the "long swordsman" does.

EDIT:
well since people have told me this is a different Roman Empire then I guess this idea is useless. Ohh well, worth a shot.

[Rotaretilbo]

That sounds more like a basic unit to me (if all Roman soldiers became legions)

[Nachlader]

About the Roman special unit

Sorry to burst your bubble, but jedihunter mentioned the Holy Roman Empire and not the original Roman empire that battered Africans, Greeks and barbarians at the same time around 200 BC to 400 AD (as for 'holy', it didn't make a difference that the Italian Romans turned to christianity at one point).

The Holy Roman Empire (Middle ages up to formation of Prussia) were an oh-so different people from the Italian Romans. In fact they are the anchestors of todays Germany.

[jedihunter]

koe said:

About the Roman special unit

Sorry to burst your bubble, but jedihunter mentioned the Holy Roman Empire and not the original Roman empire that battered Africans, Greeks and barbarians at the same time around 200 BC to 400 AD (as for 'holy', it didn't make a difference that the Italian Romans turned to christianity at one point).

The Holy Roman Empire (Middle ages up to formation of Prussia) were an oh-so different people from the Italian Romans. In fact they are the anchestors of todays Germany.

"The Holy Roman Empire wasn't Holy, Nor Roman".

I don't remember who said that, though.

Furthermore most units wouldn't do the Roman Legionaries justice on a cool scale, Red Swordsman just don't do the trick, when I think of the Roman Legions, I think of thousands of men wearing a specific uniform color, marching at the exact same time, often being able to run for a 100 miles without stopping, I just couldnt' do that in Empires, they were the Elite.

I find it highly likely I'm going to steal my units from AOK (AOE2), lol.

[jedihunter]

*Bump*


Pics ;D



And a multiplayer battle between the unfinished Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium) and the Turks, the Turks are in orange, and they had a whooooollllleeee lot of troops.