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Post by cobra on Feb 13, 2007 18:32:35 GMT -5
There are three problems with migrating A) I'm lazy B) We'd have to go into Empires and edit all the posts that say my site is the place to go or else people will be stumbling in here and be constantly redirected to your site. C) I'm lazy The forum has been archived, you can't edit your posts. This site is also much better than any Invisionfree site, stick with it.
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Post by jedihunter on Feb 13, 2007 18:35:00 GMT -5
There are three problems with migrating A) I'm lazy B) We'd have to go into Empires and edit all the posts that say my site is the place to go or else people will be stumbling in here and be constantly redirected to your site. C) I'm lazy Exactly why nobody plays this game anymore, the designers were lazy. It would take like 1:30 minutes to register, I'll do all the forum work, all you need to do, is post 1 post in Empires Heaven with a link, register... then, post. And it would be finished, we would have a better forum, hopefully we would have some people returning from EH, and it only took 1-2 minutes to do. Then re-direct here. Its a quite well-known fact that Proboards pretty much blow, I'm not trying to be a jackass or anything, but the lack of decent Signatures, good features, downloads, arcade abilities, actual good looking skins, music players.... well, the point is, Proboards suck, terribly. The longer the wait, the more of a loss it would be if you switched.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Feb 13, 2007 18:37:41 GMT -5
The site is archived. Though I can still edit my posts, I am not hunting down the...I believe there are four, maybe five or six links in the site.
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Post by jedihunter on Feb 13, 2007 18:38:12 GMT -5
The site is archived. Though I can still edit my posts, I am not hunting down the...I believe there are four, maybe five or six links in the site. Aforementioned post.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Feb 13, 2007 18:50:08 GMT -5
Let it begin
Actually, if you would be so kind as to click on Profile and then Modify Profile, you can have a signature.
Its never to late to elaborate
This is probably your most sound argument. However, a I can probably program a link that directs to my freewebs site into the global header.
We have all of...20 members...of which...half are active. I really don't think we need arcades. My company's site has those, and they are hardly used. I think Bear removed them because they were a waste of bandwidth.
You mean premade skins? Who cares? Color scheme is what it's all about, and I can edit that as I please. I can also change the icons if I want to.
Another waste of bandwidth. Do we really need a music player?
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Post by jedihunter on Feb 13, 2007 18:55:49 GMT -5
Hit me. Does it allow images? That is like asking me to elaborate on what shapes Snow Flakes can take, nearly endless. Which really looks pretty noobish, and it isn't quite as fast, if you're as "lazy" as you said before, would not it be easier to click a little button on the top of your forum header and click "one" button, still in 'your' forum, same color scheme, and upload scenarios, it looks great and quite frankly its much, much more professional. Twas only an example. I nearly laughed my ass off when you said that, this forum looks like sh*t, all proboards do, get off it already. Among another example. And, furthermore- I've already put quite a bit of effort into it, made the banner (I'll put it up in a second), some buttons... all I ask is that you register, and I'll give you control of it, all I want is to have a forum for empires that doesn't completely look like crap, nothing more- nothing less.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Feb 13, 2007 19:22:20 GMT -5
I still don't understand what is so wrong about the skin. It is very simple. If, again, you are refering to color schemes, then it can be changed. And if Ninja Jedi can code, then I foresee the skin being better. The current one is the old default from before they updated (the new default is this sickly white and blue with black text). If you really don't like it, you can go into your profile and change it to one of the other sets I whipped together. They are more to my liking anyway. When I have a couple more put together, I'll hold a poll for the default.
And you obviously don't seem very familiar with proboards if you didn't know you could put images in your signature.
And though it is more professional for the download area to be the same color scheme and part of the site, it isn't worth the effort of hunting down my previous posts at EH, changing the URL, and then having everyone migrate just so the DL section looks nicer.
A snowflake takes a circular shape, and is perfectly symetric. There are usually points coming from the circle. Was that too hard? I'm not asking for an in depth list, but perhaps a basic list other than the argument you presented, as most of it just has to do with your lack of familiarity/bias against proboards.
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Post by jedihunter on Feb 13, 2007 19:44:30 GMT -5
I still don't understand what is so wrong about the skin. It is very simple. If, again, you are refering to color schemes, then it can be changed. And if Ninja Jedi can code, then I foresee the skin being better. The current one is the old default from before they updated (the new default is this sickly white and blue with black text). If you really don't like it, you can go into your profile and change it to one of the other sets I whipped together. They are more to my liking anyway. When I have a couple more put together, I'll hold a poll for the default. Proboards looks like crap, it has a bunch of fugly, square boxes, all you can do is change the colors.[/quote] I had one about a year ago, I only remembered you could have images in your signature after I remembered I had a signature that matched my color scheme, The Matrix, green- nobody joined though, everyone told me proboards sucked, then I realized they do. Why did you even bother making a friggen forum if you're too lazy to work on it, make it look nice? Skin Selectors, Updated User Information (optional, obviously), Spoiler tags, More people join Invisionfree (or Vbulletin, if you've got a server and like $120 to waste ), lots of forum effects you can put on, Forums can have their own banners (as in, in one forum the banner is green, in the next it is blue, just.. with images), there can be rep systems- so people act better in order to gain reputation. Usergroups (emphasizes people to post, certain usergroups get certain privileges ). Aforementioned downloads, Arcade and music player options. If you have a portal, you can practically put your own site in there, with ease. Its about to relese Zetaboards, all IF forums will upgrade, it is supposed to be even better, and easier to use, with features like a built in (comprehensive) skin selector, though I must admit I haven't read much about it. And to finish the post I'll quote Wikipedia in saying Yeah, that.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Feb 13, 2007 20:02:13 GMT -5
I haven't really seen much better from invision sites concerning the overall shape of the site. I'm sure you can improve it, but I haven't seen it done. In fact, most invision sites I've been to are the same color as well.
If you would be so kind as to read Garg and Two Fourths in the Announcements section, it explains the purpose of this site and notes any changes I have made since I began the thread. But incase you don't, the site was actually a mistake. I was trying to make the very first forum for Crazy Donut Productions, and got the username and url switched around by accident.
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Post by jedihunter on Feb 13, 2007 20:15:18 GMT -5
thegtacenterforums.com/index.php?There is an example of a forum I go to, if you want to know how a IF forum can look, go there. If you don't want a decent forum, I won't bother with my time trying to get you're laziness around making a decent one, saying that "ANY" IF forum doesn't look better than this is stretching it, you just keep coughing up the same crap- "We don't need it", thats like having a country and saying "not everyone has to be happy", everytime I post decent facts (that you asked for), you say we didn't need them, want to know what you can do with codes? support.invisionfree.com/index.php?showforum=47 find it yourself! Oh, I forgot, that would take time from your life, my bad. I have been reasonable, Nobody uses Proboards, if you want to know why- It's because IF doesn't have a limit on Bandwidth, you might like an Arcade.. Videos..Music Player... but guess what, you think you're forum with less colors than a NES has a comparable skin to the best skinner of IFSZ, No, just no. I'm positive I already put 6x as much work into that forum in 3 hours as you have in this forum.. period, I ain't asking you to close this forum, I just want you to refer people who come looking for an Empires Forum, that is all I ask.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Feb 13, 2007 20:16:27 GMT -5
Also, concerning rep-system, there is a warning system that I could set up that allows me to basically say "Bad doggy!" and give people a warning on their warning bar.
I admit, the IF skin does look nice. I also noticed that the site has its own domain name, meaning they have money to shell out. Now, at K(2)C, we used...I can't even remember, but premade skins didn't just appear. They weren't free.
And that site supports quite a lot of members (about 300). Obviously, they make good use of any extra features they might have. We have 20 members.
And that site's usergroups are basically the same as our ranks (though they might not be based on post count), except less complex and there are some extra forums if you are a higher rank. Seeing as how this isn't such a huge forum (300 members compared to 20), there is almost no point in having a similar system.
And why have what you don't need. I don't expect everyone to be happy. This is because it is physically impossible for everyone to be happy because everyone has different tastes.
If you really want, I can set up half the things you mentioned, but I don't see the point. The karma system doesn't really mena much because of the abuse, I don't expect to have to use the warning system (if I want to get a point across, I could create a usergroup that restricts them from the forums or ban them temporarily or something, but a warning system would almost be overlooked), etc. Certainly skins are nice, but before we all migrate to IF, I'd like to see what Ninja Jedi can do with Javascript, and I will make some nice color schemes.
Basically, I don't see the point in wasting everyone's time for a few extra features that just slow down the page and aren't hardly used.
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Post by jedihunter on Feb 13, 2007 20:18:20 GMT -5
Also, concerning rep-system, there is a warning system that I could set up that allows me to basically say "Bad doggy!" and give people a warning on their warning bar. As does IF.. just give it a shot, you won't come back.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Feb 13, 2007 20:25:46 GMT -5
Was in the process of editing when you posted. Take a look. (and that was sort of my point. Both have a rep system, but you said that Proboards doesn't. You talk of "facts", yet half of what you say is false).
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Post by cobra on Feb 13, 2007 21:47:54 GMT -5
jedihunter, would you kindly learn to shut the feck up. These forums suit the every need of refugees from Empires Heaven, and you are merely being power hungry and trying to take control while Rotaretilbo (Brandon) has remained civil throughout your pathetic argument that "proboards suck lewl".
You don't seem to have a problem arguing on these forums, so I can't see why there should be any problem remaining here rather than migrating to your own (likely) Stalinist invisionfree realm.
In conclusion; stop being a control freak and allow brandon to continue.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Feb 13, 2007 23:01:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't go so far as to say that, but I must admit that most of your arguments are either based on a lack of knowledge concerning Proboards, are not worth the effort of migrating. Skins are nice, but icing on the cake. Why go out and get another cake when you've already got one that works fine?
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